About a year ago, I came across an atheist’s TikTok video discussing his deconstruction from the faith. I posted a comment, and we had a good conversation about the topic. Ever since that day, my algorithm started showing me more videos from “ex-vangelicals,” and I started having more and more dialogue with those who are “deconstructing.” If you look at my “For You” page these days, it’s about one-third basketball coaching, one-third funny videos, and the other third is a mix of Christian or atheist content.
After a year of interesting conversation and healthy debate, I wanted to put all of these thoughts in one place. The following is a list of the most commonly used statements or points against Christianity that I have seen, followed by my response to each. Feel free to scroll down to find all of the topics you might be more interested in. It’s important to note that I am not saying I have all of the answers to these topics. I’m also not trying to bash anyone’s beliefs or experiences. I’m simply offering some alternative thoughts in reply to these objections people continue to make. My hope is to continue the dialogue.
- “Religion is man-made for power and control.”
Response: I can’t speak for all religions. There might be some that try to control the population or followers. When it comes to Christianity, however, this wildly popular comment has never made sense to me. The first Christians had nothing to gain for sharing the message. They weren’t getting popular. They weren’t getting rich. And they weren’t gaining any power. In fact, many of them risked their lives for the cause. Have there been people throughout history that claimed to be Christians that have abused their faith for power and control? Absolutely. But that’s not how it all began, and that’s also not close to what Scripture teaches.
Here’s what the Bible actually teaches: Love your enemies, deny yourself, serve the poor, pray for those who persecute you, give generously, consider others before yourself, be kind and compassionate, forgive others, and consider it pure joy when you face hard times.
Where’s the power and control in that? This has become another scenario where assumptions take over. What if your leaders, coaches, teachers, bosses, parents, and everyone else started living out what the Bible actually says? There would be no power struggle. There would be no thought of “they’re trying to control me.” Jesus Himself said He came here to serve, and Philippians 2 says He “did not consider equality with God something to be used to His own advantage.” All of the power in the world was laid aside. If anyone tries to use the Bible for power or control, they’re simply using the words incorrectly. That’s a human error, not a Christianity flaw. - “IT’S NOT FREE WILL IF THERE IS A CONSEQUENCE. IT’S NOT FREE WILL IF GOD IS ALL-KNOWING.”
Response: Knowing has never equaled forcing. If God knows every decision you will make, it doesn’t mean He’s forcing you to make it. A lot of atheists will say God can’t be loving if He gives you this ultimatum of following Him. But consider the alternative. Would God be loving if He forced you to love Him back? Would God be loving if He forced you to spend Eternity with Him if you never wanted Him here on earth?
We should also consider this: If you break the law, do you get to tell the jury you had no choice in breaking it? You could have chosen the correct path, but instead, you chose to break the law and now face the consequences. The difference is, God actually gives you grace for breaking all of His laws, but only if you want it. He’s not going to force you to love Him against your own desires. - “If God was proven to be real, I wouldn’t worship Him anyway.”
Response: I’ve seen a ton of atheists that say we have no free will in one of their videos, and then they make another video on their page saying “I wouldn’t worship Him anyway.” By doing so, aren’t you admitting we have a choice? You are saying even if God was real, you would still CHOOSE to reject Him… and that’s what many people do anyway.
Yes, some people are atheists because they don’t believe there is enough evidence for God. Many others don’t follow God simply because they don’t want to. Maybe they don’t want to change their lifestyle or they think “if there is a God, He will let me into heaven because I’m a good person.” There are numerous reasons people choose to reject God’s existence. However, it still relates back to free will.
You see the evidence or lack thereof, and then you choose to accept or reject. Or, the evidence points to God being real, and you choose to reject Him anyway. - “Teaching religion to children is child abuse.”
Response: What’s your alternative in this situation? You think it’s child abuse to tell a five-year old there’s a God… what do you tell them instead? “Hey Billy.. one day you will die and become food for worms. Also, you’ll never see mommy or daddy ever again after that. Sleep tight!”
See what I’m getting at here?
Now, are there some adults in the world who try to use fear to get their kids to believe in a God or to “behave”? Yes, and that’s clearly not a good way to go about things. I just don’t think enough people consider the alternative when they make statements like this. Do you REALLY think it’s abuse to tell a kid there’s a God who created them and loves them as His child? And there’s a hope and a future for them? Even if you don’t believe, let’s not pretend like it’s the Christians who are traumatizing the children when your alternative is what would actually terrify a young person.
The true Gospel brings freedom and was never meant to be about behavior modification or fear. - “I no longer fear Hell after leaving the faith.”
Response: I’m not sure you were getting the right message to begin with. I’m sorry if you grew up in a family or church environment that made you fear Eternal punishment even as a believer in Jesus. I truly have no idea why you would be afraid of Hell if you also believed Jesus saved you from it. This once again goes back to the real Gospel vs. a false one that cares more about your behavior.
The real Gospel acknowledges we will all fall short, and that’s why we need a Savior in the first place. “If righteousness could be gained through the Law, Christ died for nothing” (Galatians 2). So if you were ever taught that you would go to Hell for making mistakes, for sinning too much, or for not being “good enough,” you were given information that is un-Biblical.
Following Jesus means He saved you. He died in your place. He then walked out of His own grave, conquering death. If death is conquered, and I know my future is Eternal life, there is nothing left to fear. There is no such thing as “the threat of hell” if you believe and follow Jesus. - “I’m so much happier now after leaving Christianity, and having my Sundays free!”
Response: That may be the case for you, but: 1. Happiness should never be the goal over Truth, and 2. Statistics show people of faith are much happier people overall.
There’s been a lot of research over the years for people of faith vs. people with no faith. Those who believe in Jesus are statistically happier, they have less overall worry and anxiety, and they even live longer.
When atheists say going to Church on Sunday mornings is a waste of time, they’re actually failing to see that it’s an investment. All the studies show that those who regularly attend Church live 5-8 years longer on average than those who don’t. Sounds like that 1-2 hours per week is actually a time-giver, not a time-waster.
Simply going to Church doesn’t make you a follower of Jesus, and it doesn’t make you better than anyone else. It does, however, have major benefits that often get ignored.
You might also ask yourself: what is your version of happiness? Is it simply being able to do whatever you want? Is it when you have less expectations or responsibility? Is it simply more free time? The happiest people on the planet are typically the ones who feel more purpose, and spend more time serving/giving to others. Can you be generous and contribute to society without being a Christian? Yes, but why wouldn’t you already be doing those things within the faith you used to profess? - “We make these videos because religion causes problems.”
Response: In reality, you don’t even realize how Christianity has shaped your entire world for the better, including the freedom you are currently using to bash it. When I ask atheists to give me specific examples of how Christianity has hurt them or the world, they can rarely provide them. Or, they will use cliche examples like, “religion has caused a lot of wars.” It’s similar to de-conversion stories. Those stories hardly ever have anything to do with Jesus Himself, but of experiences, other Christians, or personal preference.
Not to sound harsh, but I think the real reason you’re making these videos is for the views. You realized there’s a lot of people that enjoy bashing God, and you love being part of that club. This is why you ignore the 50 good comments people have responded to your video with, but then you put the one weirdo comment on blast, making it look like all Christians are like that. I’ve met a few content creators that actually want a conversation, but most simply want the clicks.
I encourage you to educate yourself on what Christianity has actually done for the world. Women’s rights, children’s rights, freedom, education, medicine, charity, art.. you name it. It has been greatly impacted by followers of Jesus. If you’re going to bring up a few of the bad examples throughout history, you need to also discuss the incredible amount of good. It has become very popular and trendy to bash all religion and talk about how bad it is for the world, without giving very specific examples, and while also ignoring how your entire world has been shaped by it. - “I’ve noticed that all of God’s miracles stopped after the invention of cameras.”
Response: What is a miracle, and how often do you think they should happen? To me, if miracles happened all the time, they wouldn’t be very miraculous at all. Also, people assume that the Bible is full of miracles and that they happened constantly in those days. That’s inaccurate. There are around 240 miracles recorded in the Bible, over the span of about 4,000 years. That’s like one miracle every 20 years. There were several periods of hundreds of years in between miracles.. even though it was during a time in history where the miraculous was often needed to advance the message.
Even in Jesus’ ministry.. He performed under 40 miracles over 3 years.. something like one per month, on average. If there’s no new revelation needed from God, there’s typically no new miracle. We also read how a ton of people experienced His miracles firsthand, and still chose not to believe. That brings up this question: How many miraculous things have you already been around but chose to reject?
When Jesus fed the 5,000, some of them found Him the next day.. not to follow Him, but because they were hungry again. They didn’t realize the point was about Spiritual hunger, not just physical hunger. Or how about the time they asked Jesus for another sign, and He said the only sign they would be given was from the time of Jonah. Maybe He was telling them that the stories of Scripture WERE the miracle they were seeking.
On top of all of that.. I do believe we’ve witnessed some very miraculous things on camera. Here are a few recent examples:
9. Your beliefs are based on geography.
Response: I completely understand this thought. If I was born in Somalia instead of America, the odds of me being a Christian would be a lot smaller. However, that doesn’t change whether or not Christianity is true. Our beliefs don’t change truth. Our location doesn’t change truth. Christianity itself came to be in a place that wasn’t Christian. It wasn’t just passed down from a generation, it was a brand new movement.
Unlike many other “religions,” Christianity is for “every tribe, tongue, and nation.” If there is a God, I would fully expect Him to have an open invitation for all people in all places, instead of limiting who can be part of the family. Christianity is the most geographically dispersed religion in the world. Even if you’re more likely to become a Christian in certain locations, the movement and message is global.
The New Testament has been translated into nearly 1800 languages. Compare that to the Quran (114 languages) or Hindu books (60-80 languages.) It’s clear that we are really called to be His witnesses “to the ends of the earth.” Contrary to popular belief, Christianity is also growing around the world. A lot of people act like it’s declining since it has occasionally had a slight decline in America. It is actually growing in many parts of the world, including very non-Christian places like China, India, Africa, and Latin America. Millions are coming to faith in Jesus in those places every year, despite their “geography.”
Timothy Keller once brought up this point to consider: Is it possible that God, in His foreknowledge, has given the people that were going to reject Him their own life and desires to follow? Is the person who was born in a deserted island someone who was going to reject God anyway? Keller wasn’t saying that was his position, nor is it mine. It is simply something to consider as we try to navigate this topic that can be difficult to understand.
Even though I owe a lot to my family and Church for my Christian upbringing and foundation, it was still a personal decision that I had to make. I’ve looked at the evidence. I’ve studied other religions. I still have a lot to learn and experience.. but I’m convinced Christianity is the Truth.
10. If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists. If prayer actually worked, there wouldn’t be the need for hospitals.
Response: This argument can go both ways. If God isn’t real, why are there billions who believe? Why has the movement continued and shaped the world for thousands of years? Popularity doesn’t make something truthful, but that goes for atheism as well. Scripture says many people will reject the light and that the Way is narrow. That doesn’t have to be your path. There’s forgiveness and salvation through Jesus the very second you accept Him.
As for the prayer topic… we have to understand that prayer is not about granting wishes. Our finite brains will never be able to fully comprehend or explain the Infinite. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know why some people get healed, and others don’t. Why did that person get those breaks in life, and that child caught all the bad ones? Not knowing doesn’t mean prayer is a waste.
I don’t give my kids everything they want, but I still desire for them to talk to me and have a relationship with me. Sometimes, my answer to them will be no, or not yet. And I’m just an imperfect human. God is the Perfect Father who knows every single thing we want, need, desire, and every detail about us. He’s not our personal genie. He allows us to experience pain and every type of human emotion in a broken world. One day, we’ll have more answers as to what prayer actually did for us. It doesn’t disprove God when you don’t get the answer you were looking for. “God is close to the brokenhearted” and SO many people have turned their lives around after clinging to God, instead of blaming God, in the midst of their pain.
11. If the Bible is proof that God exists, then a comic book is proof Spiderman exists.
Response: This is probably the most common statement/meme I have seen online over the last year. Forgive my bluntness, but this is one of the most unintelligent viewpoints someone can have. A comic book that is very clearly fiction does not compare in any way to a collection of historical writings.
The Bible is not a book.
Let’s say it again.
The Bible is not a book. It is a collection of 66 different writings, from over 15 centuries, with 40+ authors… that discusses real people, real places, and real events. This fact alone can also be a response to the claim that “it only says that in the Bible and nowhere else.”
Does the Bible by itself prove God’s existence? It might to some, and others may need more. For me, it’s always been a large combination of things that has given me the confidence in Christianity. The reliability and accuracy of the library known as the Bible has clearly been one of the big reasons. As I’ve previously stated, this collection of writings has changed the world. It has been the primary reason for the majority of charities in the world. It has been the primary reason for freedom and rights, for the ending of slavery, and for an incredible amount of advancements in the world. Let me know when a comic book does that if you want to make this silly comparison.
I meant what I said at the beginning of this blog: The goal here is dialogue. If you live near me, I would love to grab lunch or coffee and discuss these topics and more. If you want to exchange emails or chat online, we can do that as well. I understand the “deconstruction” movement as people try to navigate what was real and what wasn’t from their upbringing. But don’t forget about the “construct” part. True deconstruction is getting rid of teaching that isn’t true, but then learning what is, and building back up. Let’s continue to seek, and the “Truth will set you free.”
Tyler D. Smith 
The early Christians were chasing the nonsense of not dying and being a god’s favored. Then as they splintered and changed, they became political and they ended up like all religions. Cults do that sometimes. People risk their lives all of the time and often for stupid things. That doesn’t make the stupid things true.The bible does teach love your enemies and funny how it also has this god murdering them and innocents too. It’s full of ignorance and contradictions. Your god doesn’t forgive either and eternally tortures people for disagreeing with it. So, there’s the power and control, to force this cult on others. Revelation shows hate, and ignorance and fear and control, all done by Christians.Your version of Christianity is just like the rest, and not one of you can agree on the most basic things or show that your version is any better than the rest.There is no free will, and both jesus and paul say that in Matthew 13 and Romans 9. Both say tha this god has chosen who it will allow to accept it and then it damns everyone else for something they had no choice about. As soon as this god interferes with human events, free will is also gone since no one can resist an omnipotent being. So you rlies about it only being “foreknowledge” fail since it is direct action.Yep, if your god was real I wouldn’t worship such a hideous vicious and violent entity. However, as I noted above, there is no choice, so your nonsense fails yet again.Teaching lies to children is child abuse when those lies make the child afraid and ignorant. It’s great you offer a false dichotomy fallacy to defend your cult’s ignorance and fear. No, dear, one doesn’t tell “Billy” that one is food for worms. One tells Billy that there is no god and we all have one life to live as well as possible. It’s great how Christians think a lie is better than the truth. Yes, I see what you are getting at, the typical false claims of a Christian who must use ignorance and fear to scare people into the cult.This god does not love children, it murders them repeatedly in the bible and often kills them for things they didn’t do or have control over. How about telling a child that, dear, if you want to tell them all about the bible? ROFL. The gospel is only about behavior modification and fear. That’s why you have your cult’s belief about “hell”. No reason to fear hell since it is imaginary nonsense invented by humans who want to control others. Hell is indeed the “right” message from Christianity. It’s there to control, nothing more. As is typical you try to claim that only your version of the cult is the right one and fail to support that claim. Since no Christian can agree on what saves someone, then you al don’t know what will send you to “hell”. Yep, must happier without the cult lying to me. The claim that people in cults are happier is equivalent to saying that since a drunk is happier, everyone should be drunk. Church isn’t an “investment” since again, chrisians can’t even agree on which version of their cult is the right one. Happily, us atheists have just as much purpose, meaning and giving to others as christains do. And we don’t have to lie and claim we’ve given to people when all we did was talk to our imaginary friend. Funny how Christianity has indeed helped shape the world and for the worse. You simply lie when you claim Christianity is responsible for “freedom”. Sorry, dear, your religion and god literally say slavery is fine. Morals and the idea of humaneness has existed long before your cult. Christianity has harmed me and my friends because of cultists claiming that their god hates certain people and gee, Christians act on that hate. Christians have murdered each other and have caused wars thanks to that hate between them. Protestant and Catholics caused much misery and hardship during their wars. Since the church is humans, the whine that But but you can’t blame the church is simply false. If your god does nothing to correct its followers, then yep, it’s the fault of your god when they harm others. Making videos, blog posts etc all are us speaking up so christian lies don’t stand, lies like you have tried to spread here. It’s hilarious how you claim each other are “weirdos” too. As I’ve noted, Christians to love to attack each other and then pretend that only they are the TrueChristians™, and that only your particular magic decoder ring is the right one. Christianity has done little for the world. The sciences would have been discsovered with or without it. Christianity has done its best to lie about those sciences with their nonsense about creationism etc. The art was wasted on the rich Christians, and years of labor was wasted on your cathedrals when it could have been used to make things better for people. Huge buildings that have few in them except one day a week. Education was around far longer than your cult, as was medicine, children’s rights, etc. It was your cult that said that it was fine to enslave anyone who wasn’t a Christian, including children. Yep, no miracles with cameras and with doubt. Funny how the bible has jesus promising that his true followers would be able to do miracles like him and to get any prayer answered. Not one of you can do that. So what the problem? Is it that your god does’nt think you are true followers or is it that your god doesn’t exist? The bible is a set of claims and surprise, no evidence for those claims. So your touting miracles in your bible is like an ancient Greek saying that Hercules actually existed and did the twelve miraculous labors. There is no miracle every twenty years and not a single event in the bibl can be shown to have happened. No creation, no flood, no babel, no exodus, no magical savior and no resurrection. So your excuses fail yet again.Curious how there is nothing in the bible about people went back the next day for food. They followed him and nothignn says it was for more food. And curious how this jesus can’t decide if he gives signs or not and what they are for. He whines about the sign of Jonah and then he says that all of his miracles are for people to believe in him.Those videos are hilarious since yet again no evidence, just claims. No medical records, just frauds and its always something that no one can tell has changed. It’s hilarious how it is more than obvious he still can’t see anything since his eyes track nothing and surprise, he can’t get out of the tub himself. Christianity was invented by humans and then promptly splintered. Strangehow this god tells no one in ancient meso America about himself, no one in china, etc. It’s aonly humans that carry the nonsense. No invitations at all, just humans bothering other humans. It’s also hilarious how your ignorance of how far Islam has spread shows your claims to be false. Numbers of translations doesn’t mean your cult’s lies are true either. That you would think that this is important is great. Christianity isn’t growing around the world since Christians are sure that other Christians aren’t really Christians at all. In all of those places, it was humans taking the cult there, nothing else. And it’s great how then you blame people for your god’s failure. It’s even better when you posit nonsense like “but but those peo[pel who didn’t know about jesus wouldn’t have accepted him anyway” and then try to claim it isn’t what you believe. Your “something to consider” is just the lies of a Christian who needs to try to run something up the flagpole before he admits that he does nothing more than blame the victim. You can’t even admit what Christianity is the right one. The first part of #10 is hilarious since no atheist has ever claimed that nonsense. There are atheists because this god does nothing and its followers can’t produce it. And gee, if prayer actually worked, yep, ther wouldn’t be the need for hospitals. Christains hate to admit that their jesus/god promised he would provide everything needed for life, including healing as the book of james promises. And yet this jesus fails miserably. That billions believe in many many different gods including Christians is why this cult fails and its claims are lies. And as usual, the christain must lie about prayers’ effectiveness. Yep, he has no idea why people get healed and some don’t, and as usual, he can’t show anyone gets magically healed. Thes frauds just shrug their shoulders and keep believeing in their lies because they are sure they will get magical presents when they die, nothing more than arrogance and selfishness.It’s notable how Christians make up the “no not yet”, “here’s something different,” etc excuses for why their god fails and yet jesus says that true followers will get any prayer answered, with what is asked for and quickly. Their bible shows them as liars. The bible is a book, or more appropriately, a set of books never mean to be together, from many anonymous authors and many different time periods. So when his fraud lies and claims it is not a book, that’s quite false. It does not talk about real places, people or events. It occasionally mentions some real places and people, but not what actually happened. So it is exactly like any fiction set in the real world, from Spider-man, to the Greek and Egyptian myths about their gods, etc. The bible is not reliable and can’t even keep its own stories straight from the old testament to he gospels to paul’s nonsense. It has changed the world because of ignorant Christians spreading its ignorance and hate. And curious how many religions lead ot charity, so that lie also fails in showing this cult is anything special. As for ending slavery, that’s also a lie since the abolititionists had to literally ignore their bibl when they helped the slaves to freedom. The bible says slaves should never seek their freedom and their suffering is good for this god (1 Peter 2). For claims of wanting dialogue, there are a lot of easily dispelled lies here. There is no truth in this religion, and having been a Christian, I know that the actual truth did set me free.
That’s a lot to unpack, so I’ll try to at least respond to some of it. The Bible definitely does not save “slavery is fine.” Slavery was a worldwide profession in that time of history, meaning servant, and most of the people that got into did so voluntarily for a job. A ton of what you said in this response is “easily dispelled lies.” Christianity is the main reason for freedom, education, medicine, charity, and an unbelievable amount of good in the world, and one of your replies is that “it changed the world because Christians spreading ignorance and hate.” Didn’t realize charity was about hate..
Claiming there is no free will will forever be odd to me. You literally chose to be a Christian at one point in your life, and are now choosing not to be.
Claiming the Bible is not reliable is quite different than basically every scholar that has spent their lives dissecting it.
Claiming the Bible is a bunch of books but it’s also a lie to say it’s not one book… is quite a choice of words.
You also claim “it doesn’t talk about real people or places but occasionally does.”
I never said a word about Islam’s spread, so that’s you making things up.
“We made videos so lies won’t spread..” but many of the videos are complete lies, which is the whole point. I saw a viral video recently that listed “10 reasons I don’t believe in Christianity,” and like 8 of the reasons were things the Bible doesn’t even teach.
“No atheist has ever claimed the first part of #10″… I can send you at least 10 videos of that very statement if you’d like. Why would I make any of this up?
Part of dialogue is disagreements and response. There’s no “claim of wanting dialogue.”
That’s quite a lie, Smitty, so you might want to read your bible someday.
This is what your bible says abou slavery and how it’s perfectly fine:
“44 As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. 45 You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. 46 You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.” Leviticus 25
“18 Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. 19 For it is to your credit if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. 20 If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, where is the credit in that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God’s approval. 21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you should follow in his steps.” 1 Peter 2
It’s hilarious how christians lie. Slavery wasn’t a profession. It doesn’t mean servant, and you are quite a failure. The only ones who had the opportunity to leave their indentured servitude were the Israelites, as it says in Leviticus 25. In Leviticus 25, as I have shown anyone not an Israelite was a slave forever, literally chattel slavery. Then your new testament has that slaves should never seek their freedom for the glory of this god, so abolitiionists had to ignore their bible to free slaves. 1 Peter 2 has the term harsh or wicked for the owners, and no slave should even leave because of that.
So you are a fraud and a failure, and your god has never said slavery was wrong. Unsurspingly, Christianity is not the main reason for freedom, education medicine, or charity in the world since they were not the first ones who had medicine, education or charity, and their god is entirely against freedom and human rights with its hate and genocide. Your charity is toward yourselves, dear, to enlarge the cult.
Yep, claiming no free will may be odd to you and your ignorance, but your bible says no free will, no matter how you may try to lie. I did not choose to become a Christian, I trusted my family and society and believed them and their cult’s lies. Then I left. We have no free will, but we do have a good illusion of it. Your bible has not even that.
It’s lovely when you try to claim that all scholars agree your cult is true. Alas, for your lies, they do not. The bible is not reliable, not historically and not as a moral guide. Curiuos how there is no evidence any of the events in it happened. Your bible is a bunch of books, letters, etc, and except with the possibility of the first five books of the OT, they were never meant to be together.
the bible mentions real people and places, that doesn’t make its lies true. You claimed this garbage “Christianity is the most geographically dispersed religion in the world. Even if you’re more likely to become a Christian in certain locations, the movement and message is global.” Which shows how you are ignorant about Islam’s spread.
It’s so sweet that you can’t show this mysterious video that has 8 things the bible doesn’t teach. And since I know that Christians don’t agree on what the bible teaches, all you have is how your cult has splintered.
Sure send videos that have atheists stating this “If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists. “. I’ll be happy to recant my point if you can. I’m guesing you can’t.
Why do Christians lie? To try spread their nonsense so they can get external validation. It’s quite simple.
Dialogue isn’t telling lies, Smitty. Your old nonsense has long been disposed of. You just repeat it again since you don’t think atheists can rebut them.
Seems like you’ve been hurt by Christians. And if that’s the case, I’m sorry for your bad experience. But the vast majority of your comments are simply wrong. And it would take you like 5 minutes of study to see that, especially with your takes on slavery, what Christianity has done for the world, and the reliability of Scripture. If you refuse to actually study those things, it probably means you just don’t want to. Also, look up what the definition of dialogue is before you accuse me, (someone you are having a literal dialogue with), of not having dialogue.
Here’s one example of a video I’ve referred to- https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkBspKN2/
Please explain to me what Islam has to do with my points about Christianity. I never said Islam hasn’t spread or that it’s not growing. I made points about Christianity being global and still spreading in most of the world. It is way less centralized and does not have “location” demands like Islam or other religions have. That’s part of the point.
“Why do Christians lie?”, as you continue to spread very obvious lies in all of your replies.
no, not hurt a all, just realized it was a harmful lie to others.
You can’t show a single one of my points wrong and you simply try to lie and claim there are answers somewhere on the internet. Happily, I know there isn’t.
I’ve actually studied christianity and its many versions for quite sometime and know when a christian fails.
you claim that chrisainity is the most widespread religion and it is not. Islam is just widespread, and curious how both cults are splintered, and aren’t as large as they would like to claim.
and again, a dialogue isn’t telling lies. That’s just a sad little man on a soapbox who has nothing. If you want a dialogue then tell me how I’m wrong rather than showing yuo have nothing by demanding I look for what doesn’t exist on the internet.
and funny how this claim ““If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists. ” isn’t on that video at all. Nice set of lies yet again, dear. Shame your god hates lies and liars. No wonder you are a fraud.
and it’s hilarious how you lie about christianity not having “one location” since Jerusalem is one, the Vatican is another.
I’ve responded to plenty of your points. You just ignore them or say, “nuh-uh!” as your response.
Christianity is the main religion in over 120 countries. Islam is about 50. And as I said in the blog, there’s no comparison of the Bible vs. Quran in terms of languages translated, and overall spread. And even IF Islam ever surpassed Christianity in terms of the population, that does not, in ANY WAY, change the original point that you somehow continue to sidestep over.
The definition of dialogue is “two or more people having a conversation.” Since you don’t want me to tell you to look things up on your own, I looked up the definition to send to you.
I sent you one of the videos you asked for.. and your response is.. “oh look the other one isn’t on there!” lol
Jerusalem or the Vatican are not the location of Christianity. That’s just another weird lie.
Do you have anything you’d actually like to discuss, or will you continue responding with more easily debunked lies.. despite saying I’m the one who is lying?
That’s quite a false set of statements. Do you think your god is too stupid to notice your lies about me?
There is no one Christianity, and Christians claim that other versions than their own aren’t Christians. You are moving the goalposts from your initial claim that Christianity has a wider geographic spread than other religions “Christianity is the most geographically dispersed religion in the world. Even if you’re more likely to become a Christian in certain locations, the movement and message is global.””, which it does not, to claiming that it is a major religion in more countries “Christianity is the main religion in over 120 countries. Islam is about 50.”. When your lies don’t work then you change your lies.
It’s hilarious how you try to claim how popular Christianity is as why it is true and in the same paragraph try to claim that even if islam was more popular, your cult is still true.
Catholicism is the Christian version with the most people in it. So, is it the correct version of Christianity? It’s hilarious how you can’t figure out where the location of Christianity is. Where did it start, dear? Hmm, is it in Germany where Luther was? Is it in England where Calvin started? Is it in salt lake city with the Mormons?
A dialogue isn’t someone telling lies and then trying to gaslight me. A dialogue is when positions are exchanged and are honestly reviewed.
And it’s hilarious when you claimed atheists say “ If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists. “ and then send a link to a video that doesn’t have an atheist saying that at all. That you are incompetent doesn’t make me the villain.
You have failed in all of your claims. Your bible and thus your god does support slavery. You claimed I was lying and have yet to show any evidence to support that claim. You can’t do what your jesus promised his true followers. You are quite the loser.
“You are quite the loser.” That tells me all I need to know about this discussion. You don’t even want a conversation. You aren’t open to the very thing you claim.
I truly have no idea how you’re still fighting back against an obvious point. Is it true or false that Christianity is the major religion in more countries than any other religion? Is it true or false that Christianity’s text has been translated to the most languages? Is it true or false that it is currently the largest in the world? That is the very definition of most globally dispersed. This is not an opinion. This is not something you can even argue against. It is a fact. Would you like to respond yet again, arguing against facts? And to the other argument.. Christianity obviously started in one location. It is not tied down to that location anymore. Christians do not have to go to Israel, pray in the direction of Israel, or anything like that. Christianity is for every tribe, tongue, and nation. No matter your background or location.
For the third time.. the other video was to your other request and had nothing to do with the quote you keep replying with. You can literally google this statement and see lots of examples.. even though you said “no one has ever said that.” https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/wldl12/if_the_christian_god_existed_there_would_be_no/
Again, I’m sorry if you’ve had a bad experience with Christianity in your life. Calling me a liar and a loser despite giving factual statements is an odd choice. I hope you will be open to these conversations in the future, instead of the default responses.
Yep, I do know a loser when I see one. Again, you can’t show videos to support your claims. You also can’t show reddits to support your claims. It’s hilarious how you have to lie that I’m not open to things when I am not open to your baseless claims.
let’s look at what you claimed about videos:
“I’ve seen a ton of atheists that say we have no free will in one of their videos, and then they make another video on their page saying “I wouldn’t worship Him anyway.” “
no, it doesn’t mean the person believes in free will. They wouldn’t believe in your god if there was free will, but there is not.
“Not to sound harsh, but I think the real reason you’re making these videos is for the views. “
Yep, a lie on your part.
You show videos of “miracles” and yep, they fail too.
you gave me a video that has supposedly 8 things the bible doesn’t even teach and surprise, the bible does teach those things.
you claimed that you could: ““No atheist has ever claimed the first part of #10″… I can send you at least 10 videos of that very statement if you’d like.”
Christianity is not a majority religion since christians do not agree on who a christian is. Are catholics Christians? Many protestants and evangelicals claim they are not. And catholics claim that those people aren’t Christians.
jesus said that his words weren’t for all tribes but the jews. Then Paul decided he needed a new audience.
Christianity is tied to places, and people go on pilgrimage all of the time.
You claimed “Christianity is the most geographically dispersed religion in the world. “ and it is not. Geographically dispersed means it is in many locations on the world. Can you tell me where Christianity is that islam isn’t? So you have repeatedly moved the goalposts since you have been wrong. You never said that it was a “majority religion” in most countries, etc.
So you fail yet again.
and of course, you go back to the same lie you tried before, that I supposedly had a “bad experience”. I didn’t, and your lies don’t work.
you claimed taht atheists say this ” If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists.”
you gave a reddit, that doesn’t say this. ifit does show where.
Ok, I’m starting to question if you’re a real person or not. The Reddit literally has that statement in the title. What are you looking at?
When someone says “I think…” for something, it’s not a lie, it’s their opinion. For other statements that include facts, that’s different. But apparently, you don’t like facts either. So I can’t share an opinion or literal facts with you lol. Once again, fighting back against an absolute fact about Christianity that is not even up for debate.. quite a choice on your part.
Can’t say I didn’t try to have a conversation with you. You’re either ignoring clear points, or choosing to sidestep them.. while resorting to name calling and false accusations. I hope you will at least attempt to understand other points of view in the future, and things that are factual.
When someone says “I think…” and they have been shown otherwise repeatedly, then it is a lie.
You claimed atheists say this: “If God was real, there wouldn’t be so many atheists”
the title of the reddit is “If the Christian God existed, there would be no atheists”
so one has that if god was real, then not so many atheists.
the oher says “if god was real, then there would be no atheists.
They aren’t the same. Close, but not the same. So I stand by my point. You try to claim that since people believe in some god, then a god must exist. I, and the reddit commenter, point out that if your god exists, it would be obvious.
and claimng that billionsn believe misses the fact that they do not believe in the same god, not even christians.
Oh, you’ve demonstrated that some of the atheist content creators aren’t doing it for the views? Because that’s what I said “I think” to. There are some of them who ask for likes, follows, and subscribers at the end of every “we hate God” rant that they give.. and some of them have merch. Merch! lol.
Different denominations of Christianity doesn’t mean it’s a different God. Not even close. Denominations are about preferences, traditions, and minor belief differences of minor things. Muslims don’t all believe or practice the same things in their religion either, but you love to throw them into these comparisons.
Yes, dear, I have, since I am not “doing it for the views”. You have nothing to suport your lies, dear. This is typical for a christian who is terrified of having his cult exposed for what it is.
it’s lovely how asking for likes and followers is how some people make money. Yep, some have merch and so do christians. It’s so sweet when your attacks against others show that you are just another pitiful hypocrite.
Yep, it does mean it is a different god since different denominations claim that their god wants different morals and saves people differently. Denominations are about differences in basic doctrine which means your versions all contradict each other on major points. Yep, Muslism don’t all agree either and your cult is just like theirs, invented by humans and is nothing but lies and fairy tales.
Oh, I didn’t realize you speak for every atheist in the world. Since you don’t do it for views, that must mean ALL of them don’t lol. Creating an account where you bash God 10 times per day, sell merch and do whatever it takes to get more followers.. is absolutely doing it for the views. Some Christians do that too, correct. See how I can acknowledge an obvious truth? You should try it sometime.
Now take some of the Christian denominations.. Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Pentecostal… it’s the same God. Your analogy would be like saying a group of siblings and cousins don’t have the same parents/uncles because they have some different opinions about them. The “major” points are not what the denominations disagree on. Who was Jesus? Did He rise from the dead? Is Scripture the Word of God? Those things are what’s important.. not what type of service or tradition you hold.
Yep, here we go with still no evidence for your god or your claims. Again, you can’t show that any atheiss posts for “views” and your lies fail again.
It’s hilarious how christians are out there lauding their imagniary friend 10 times a day, selling merch, and do what it takes to get more followers. Poor dear, are you jealous since your cult fails?
Unsurpsingly, it is no the same god with those denominations. Each claims that the others are n’t christians, and each makes up what morals this god wants.
the major poins are disagreed on, dear. Which is it, predestionation or free will? How is one saved? Who are saved? What does baptism do and how does one do it?
How is the bible to be interpreted? Which parts are literal, metaphor, exaggeration, etc? What is heaven and hell? Who goes there and for how long?
Is jesus god or not?
Chrisians can’t agree on any of these things. Your ignornce about your own religion is typical.
I could tell you the sun came out today, and you’d probably respond with: “No it didn’t. It’s hilarious that you think the sun came out when it clearly didn’t. Typical Christian making up lies. One time, there was one Christian that said the sun didn’t come out, so that means all Christians can’t agree on anything.” That sums it all up. I hope you will seek the truth and be open to other possibilities in your future conversations. The immediate accusations and misinformation while ignoring actual points/facts isn’t the best way to converse.
sorry about that mass of text. I tried to split it up.
Absolutely, let’s chat. I would love to know what false claims I have made.. These are all actual statements/conversations I’ve had with atheists over the last 18 months.